"Araik Stepanian: You have said that Zelenskyi is nobody, these are Americans who make decisions instead of him, and so on. But we have listened to the Governor of Zaporozhe Region who demands strikes on the decision-making centers. And you consider that these are Americans, then, where are the decision-making centers? Is it in Washington? Is it in Ukraine? Where shall we strike?

Franz Klintsevich: It is necessary to strike the territory of Ukraine where we know these centers are, and the territory of European countries where there are people who make such a decision. And this is called the red line. And they, ultimately, when Zaporozhian Nuclear Power Plant was attacked for the second time, when they warned use thousand times, we warned them through the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and military communication channels, we should clearly understand that they have not just crossed the red line, they have harshly broken it.”"